Comments on: Personal vs Political https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/ And I'm getting madder. Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:26:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Natty https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-148126 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:26:12 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-148126 *outrage, not outrange. Sorry for spelling.

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By: Natty https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-148125 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:25:41 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-148125 Whilst I totally agree with what you are all saying, sometimes I feel that you need a name, or a personality to be known to make this more human, to be able to feel compassion, outrange etc. If it was just another faceless crime, we are less likely to care sadly.

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By: RLC https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-145298 Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:59:45 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-145298 I know I’m late to this thread, but this:

“I just wish we could address a social problem without putting a face on it.”

is spot on. It’s also how I feel about the whole Rihanna situation, since after she was abused by Chris Brown the entertainment (and news) media decided they’d turn her into the poster girl for domestic violence. It was just unfair and stupid, as if she had somehow signed on to be the “new face of battery” or she’d asked for it, when I can only assume she did the complete opposite. It was disgusting. Are we incapable of feeling angry about a nasty concept or way of thinking without it needing a mascot? People live off the shock value of cases like this, it’s like an emotional drug hit. It’s incredibly offensive and a slap in the face to the people actually involved.

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By: Sister Wolf https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-144928 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:38:01 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-144928 Audi – Thanks, that was so interesting. I have thoughts on this that no one mentioned in all the comments, so I will organize them and write more about bullying.

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By: Audi https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-144914 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:10:02 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-144914 I just read this excellent commentary and thought I’d share:
http://kateharding.info/2010/10/06/on-good-kids-and-total-fucking-assholes/

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By: Sister Wolf https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-144505 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 07:00:32 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-144505 Tatylor – I can’t read the wnole article…but I read enough. I was bullied at school, and so were both of my kids. Cerebral types make good targets. I think that bullying is a huge issue in school, where even when they calim to have a zero-tolerance policy, it is never enforced. Seen that with my own eyes.

Bullying needs to be addressed in the home, at school, in the workplace, and in our legal system. But making a martyr of that college student is still a terrible thing to do to his family.

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By: Taylor https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-144486 Sat, 09 Oct 2010 06:03:39 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-144486 I read this article today, which seriously made me physically ill.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101008/ap_on_re_us/us_bullying_one_town

It does get better. I was bullied relentlessly in junior high. Pushed down a flight of stairs… all kinds of awful shit. The girls who were bitches to me sometimes try to add me on Facebook. None of them are attractive. My ex step cousin was one of those girls, and she got so drunk one night at a frat party, she shit all over herself (ironically, that girl would go on TIRADES about how homosexuality and ‘liberals’ were going to hell).

It’s great when you’re out of the storm and you can look at it and just see a bunch of dipshits. But it’s so unfortunate that some are unable to do that. I wish they were still here with us. And yes, I agree that this person did not want to be made a martyr of, but I can also empathize with why it is happening.

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By: Bevitron https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-144272 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:57:56 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-144272 Beautifully stated, Sister Wolf.
What everyone else has said. I was appalled at the martyrizing of the young violinist. Eighteen years old, god. I can see how it would trigger the post-traumatic symptoms for you, and unbearable anguish. Blessings to the young man’s family, and to you, and yours.

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By: Audi https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-143694 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:34:55 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-143694 What really bothers me about this story is that no one stepped up and defended this poor kid while he was still alive. Sadly, people only get incensed once something awful like this has happened; never mind that there were plenty of his classmates who were aware of what was going on, and were perfectly willing to share in the little “joke” until it became obvious that it was far more serious than anyone bothered to consider. I think a lot of people share the blame in this besides just the two pieces of shit that have been identified. The underlying social problem here is the self-absorbed, “not my problem” attitude that allowed this behavior to go unchecked.

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By: The Raisin Girl https://godammit.com/personal-vs-political/comment-page-1/#comment-143028 Thu, 07 Oct 2010 04:56:58 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=6021#comment-143028 Unfortunately, faceless social problems never get addressed. Most of the people I know who are homophobic or hate gay people have never actually gotten to know a gay person. I know my attitude about gay rights has changed drastically over the years, with my high school best friend coming out to me and the number of amazing, wonderful people who just happen to be gay, queer, lesbian, bi, etc that I’ve met since starting college. I think it’s like that for many people; it’s easy to hate and support discrimination when it’s the “gay community” or the “homosexual agenda.” But when it’s one scared kid with a name and a face and a family, it makes a difference in the amount of bigotry most normal human beings can justify to themselves.

My view on this is that I feel terrible for his family. I can’t even begin to imagine their grief. But as for the boy himself, he’s gone where nothing here can hurt him anymore, and I hope he’s at peace. I think for most journalists and activists, it comes down to a delicate balance between respecting the family’s grief, and trying to make a change so that more kids don’t die and more families don’t have to mourn. In this situation, I feel like his parents’ wishes should be respected. Some parents start foundations when their child is the victim of a hate crime, others mourn in private. I feel both are valid and understandable choices and it bothers me that one is lauded and the other ignored.

Of course, it all goes back to the double-standard: if you’re straight, your personal life is your business. If you’re gay, your personal life is a political statement, and if you don’t want it to be, you get called a “closet case.” Ugh.

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