Comments on: “She Could’ve Just Said No:” Part I https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/ And I'm getting madder. Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:02:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: cll leukemia https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-2/#comment-207410 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 08:02:36 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-207410 Thank you for give very good knowledges. Your blog is so coolI am impressed by the information that you have on this blog. It shows how well you understand this subject. Bookmarked this page, will come back for more. You, my friend, ROCK! I found just the information I already searched everywhere and just couldn’t find. What a perfect site. Like this website your website is one of my new favs.I like this info shown and it has given me some sort of commitment to have success for some reason, so keep up the good work

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By: Steroids https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-2/#comment-135976 Mon, 27 Sep 2010 02:50:14 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-135976 Ecstatic i came across this site, will make sure to book mark it so i can stop by regularly.

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By: jlg https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-2/#comment-91210 Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:03:54 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-91210 My religious education/ethics teacher makes me mad. She teaches her female students to say no in this situation but she thinks that the male students are immature so they shouldn’t be told about respecting women and not forcing themselves onto women because they might not understand why and be all silly about it, with their “jokes”. honestly?
she is in a prime position to educate them about respect and she won’t. and due to being a fundamentalist christian spends half the lessons dribbling on with inaccurate information about the bible and SOME 0f the time on other religions, and is disparaging while she does so.
NOT HELPING!

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By: Danielle https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-2/#comment-90080 Sun, 30 May 2010 19:42:33 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-90080 SW-It’s definitely a huge problem in the legal system. The law used to demand women have physical evidence that they physically fought back though statistics show that women are less likely to fight back because they fear they will be injured in the process; furthermore, women are statistically less aggressive than men are. Many legal analysts who say that women are being judged by male standards when it comes to rape and the expectation that women should risk their lives for their chastity is both unrealistic and outdated–though some feminists argue the law should not encourage the stereotype that women are passive and weak by lowering the standards of rape.

Rape is particularly difficult because it requires the prosecution show the alleged victim did not want to have sex and the alleged rapist intended to rape beyond a reasonable doubt which is already a steep standard and it frequently comes down to a girl’s word against a guy’s. As a law student, I’ve read many outrageous rape cases–one of which involved a man squeezing the neck of a woman while she cried and begged for her life…which was later interpreted by the court as a ‘heavy caress.’

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By: Eliza https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-2/#comment-90072 Sun, 30 May 2010 18:24:53 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-90072 I always thought it was interesting how drinking is popularly blamed for victims of crimes but not the criminals themselves. Shouldn’t a man too intoxicated to gauge consent from a woman or control his own libido face consequences?

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By: Sister Wolf https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-2/#comment-90010 Sun, 30 May 2010 07:48:22 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-90010 Danielle – Today, a friend toled me about the time she was raped by a man she’d had some drinks with. She didn’t see the point of going to the police because they’d never believe her. She felt it was her fault, in a sense, for allowing herself to be in a situation where this could happen. And that women need to just learn to suck it up.

But. What is a man had some drinks with another guy, and ended up being raped by him Would his friends tell him to suck it up? I’m guessing that people would find this srot of rape more horrifying and criminal.

Pretty fucked up, eh?

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By: Danielle https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-2/#comment-89998 Sun, 30 May 2010 05:39:38 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-89998 There’s a lot of legal issues surrounding the ‘just say no’ stance. For one, social conditioning and the media has conditioned both men and women to treat some ‘no’s as a word for ‘maybe.’ No one can deny that ‘no’ in a situation involving a masked rapist in a dark alleyway means ‘no;’ but then, no one can deny that some movies depicting a woman playfully saying no while giggling means ‘maybe’ or even ‘yes.’ In fact, there are so many media portrayals of playful women moaning lusty ‘no’s that many men and women are no longer certain when no actually means no–particularly the younger ones. Many states grapple with this issue from a legal perspective as well and, as such, most states have decided that merely saying ‘no’ is not enough to quantify a sexual encounter as rape.

After some thought, I’ve decided that the S&M community has the rest of society beat by a long run. Instead of ‘no,’ the sanctity of which has been brutalized and mutilated by pornography and R-rated movies, why not just have a safe word? Saying no might be misconstrued as a means to further the excitement by some but surely saying ‘onomatopoeia’ while half-dressed will clearly alert the person your onomatopoeia means no and this no really means no. Think about it: the worst mistakes most women have ever made sexually is sleeping with someone they have no or little understanding of due to a failure to communicate. If we taught all children to slow down, think if they want to have sex, and then tell them they should sit down with that other person and come up with a safe word before going at it, our children would 1) think a lot more thoroughly about sex; 2) communicate better with their sex partners. Sure, it wouldn’t stop a man from forcing a woman if he really wanted to–but at least that woman could go to court testifying that she said ‘yellow’ in the middle of getting undressed, the man heard her, and still went on with it with full knowledge yellow was the safe word.

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By: Sad https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-2/#comment-89996 Sun, 30 May 2010 04:57:12 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-89996 Oh hoochiegucci, that is terrible. I am SO sorry to hear that. I had a similar experience in college. It wasn’t so violent, but I remember laying there in absolute fear and having an out of body experience that it wasn’t really happening to me. It was someone I regarded as a friend who I always thought might have a little crush on me. After that night he tried to pretend like our friendship was normal and I did too.

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By: Sister Wolf https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-89994 Sun, 30 May 2010 04:33:05 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-89994 skye – Very depressing. teaching your boy is a real way of making a difference. But the fact that this is so universal, and yet up til now such a dark secret, is a bummer. Maybe getting it out into the open will lead to change somehow? That is my hope.

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By: skye https://godammit.com/she-couldve-just-said-no-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-89991 Sun, 30 May 2010 04:16:47 +0000 http://www.godammit.com/?p=5126#comment-89991 Jezebel have reposted the Evil Beet post – the comments there are just a depressing endless litany of “me too” stories, seems like this is an almost universal experience. How the hell that actually changes I don’t know. I guess I’ll do my best to teach my son how to interact with women sexually in a mutually respectful way. I was thinking about this, and realised that although my mother’s good grounding for me wasn’t enough to stop me getting baffled and blinded by messed up sexual politics, she did a pretty good job with making sure my brother knew how to handle himself. I still remember she and I sitting him down age 14 and giving him a lesson on “What is the clitoris, and what do you do with it?” (words, diagrams, no demonstrations!) He was much in demand as a deflowerer as a consequence.

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