Rep. Giffords Speaks About Violence

What an intelligent, eloquent woman.   The anti-Palin, one might say.

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36 Responses to Rep. Giffords Speaks About Violence

  1. eh says:

    The Pima County Sherrif who responded to this didn’t filter his opinion about what happened, a shining moment for Arizona in a tragedy like this. Sanity does exist.

    Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik
    “There’s reason to believe this individual has a mental issue and I think that people who are unbalanced are especially susceptible to vitriol,” he said.

    “Vitriol” in public debate was a recurring theme in Dupnik’s remarks as he blasted the media for “the vitriolic rhetoric” heard on television and radio.

    “This has not become the nice United States of America that most of us grew up in and I think its time we do the soul-searching,” he said.

    “The anger, the hatred the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous and unfortunately, Arizona has become the capitol. We have become the mecca of prejudice and bigotry.”

    Now, I don’t know if America was ‘nicer’ back in the day but politics were probably a bit more civil. That or racism and bigotry didn’t have to hide behind a political agenda (like they do now with many Tea Party members) and just existed in society. Arizona seems to have both things going on at the same time.

  2. Aja says:

    I really hope she pulls through.

  3. eh says:

    BTW several of the questions asked of her by these newscasters are idiotic. She handles it all so well. What a loss.

  4. Ann says:

    I am beyond outraged by this tragedy. Sarah Palin has blood on her hands, and no “apology” from her will ever change my mind about that.

  5. JK says:

    As always Sister Wolf – you do justice, and real balanced and fair (at least in this arena) where very little “seems” at first glance, to exist.

    My personal thoughts are the shooter was “used” and one can read into that whatever one may wish.

    Regarding your more recent posts yes, I kinda like your expressions of enjoying the ‘tomboyish look’ but fortunately (for me anyway) back when you posted the pic of your rear-end, I also downloaded it to flash-drive. I lost your ass to my recent re-format but since I wanted your rear-end on whichever computer I was working, I was happy to have it on hand. (So to speak.) “Tomboyish” your ass is not.

    HelOnWheels, if you read this – worry not – Reverend Wolf assures me she doesn’t care a whit – she remains happy to vow us into bliss.

  6. Tanya says:

    The Pima County Sheriff has gone on record against SB1070, stating that his department will resist the bill as much as possible within the constraints of the law. Tucson is one of the most liberal places in AZ. Even so, it kind of sucks.

  7. Sister Wolf says:

    Eh – Yes, she seems unusually authentic for a politician. A loss for everyone.

  8. Catherine says:

    Thank you for putting this up. I appreciate your blog’s versatility and you bringing up all things you mind here, fashion, politics, society, whatever.
    I was shocked when I heard that she was shot, being from Europe I don’t know her, but violent outbursts in supposed free and grown up democracies always scare me. Now that I’ve gotten a glimpse of what kind of politician she is, I feel even more sorry. I hope she’ll get through.

  9. David Duff says:

    Stop being such a creep, JK, our ‘Big Sis’ is being her usual Liberal self, about as even-handed as someone with two left hands! Rep. Gifford, in the clip above, calls for restraint in political language. The day you ever get restrained language on this blog will be the day I stop reading it!

    The killer obviously lived in his own phantasy-land and, according to everything I have read so far, if he had any political leanings at all it was to the Left not to the Right – his self-confessed favourite video was of someone burning the American flag – hardly a Palinesque habit. Not that politics has much to do with this incident, anyway, which was a classic case of a nutter going nuts – end of story.

  10. Liz says:

    Using this tragedy to bash a hated political party or person uses innocent deaths to spread more vitriol. May God be with the families who suffered losses and grant all of us the ability to love those who think differently than we do. What a terrible crime- what a terrible tragedy.

  11. Aja says:

    Sorry David Duff and Liz but I think everyone sees the writing on the wall here. The republicans are doing some heavy back peddling right now. And they very well should!! “Political rhetoric” has gotten out of control. Gunshots should NEVER EVER be used on a politicians page. I remember thinking it was poor taste before this terrible act of violence. Now I just think it’s disgusting.

  12. Much as I love Duffster and he is right about the excellent bias of SW, I don’t think Sarah Palin can go uncensored – it might not have been young Jared acting in response to her, but as the Sheriff wisely points out fan the flames of specific views doesn’t help. I’m bowing down to the words of the Sheriff, I’m thinking his judgement in respect of bigotry and how it is manifest, even if it is indirect in preventing or stopping extreme behaviour then yes ‘vitriol’ is culpable whether it comes from the right directed at the left or vice versa.

  13. hammiesays says:

    Gawd. Extreme views breed extreme acts. xx

  14. Andra says:

    Let me see if I have this right.
    All this drama and violence is because Americans do NOT want all Americans to have access to health care?
    As I understand it, some American workers have employers who provide health care but many employers do not and so poorly paid employees cannot afford to get sick in the great US of A.
    I dunno, doesn’t seem right to me.
    So, why are these loonies protesting? What kind of democracy is this?
    America has so many crazy people and most of them have guns.
    This is seriously scary and, apart from a misguided transit stop in Guam a couple of years ago, I have managed to steer clear of the USA.
    I even managed to fly from Vancouver to Mexico City a few years ago and only saw it from 35,000 ft. Nice from on high but I wouldn’t want to live there.

  15. Taylor says:

    The weird thing is, I live in Tempe, Arizona and I NEVER felt unsafe here until we elected that stupid bitch Jan Brewer and she started prattling on and on about how unsafe it is. Then it actually became unsafe. Self fulfilling prophecy.

    The gunshots should have never been used- I agree with Aja. It is in very poor taste, not unlike everything that Sarah Palin does. The fact that people see her as a legitimate politician as opposed to the mere reality TV star that she is baffles me. She is no better than Daisy de la Hoya. She went on a camping trip with Kate fucking Gosselin- for TLC. It is clear from the language that her daughters use on their Facebook that they have been raised in an environment conducive to bigotry and hatred. Trash begets trash, and Palin is trash. People can say whatever the fuck they want to about Obama, but he shows restraint, which is something that Palin does not know the meaning of.

  16. Marky says:

    Jan Brewer is a stupid, stupid cunt. I love the video of her dentures falling out while she’s dodging questions about health care. The fact that she’s governor of Arizona is really pathetic.

    I grew up in Tucson, and it is slightly better than the rest of the of nasty, ignorant state. I think now, much more than when I was growing up, there are movements and cunts for the ignorant Arizona trash to latch onto: Sarah Palin, Fox News, The Tea Party. Their hatred and ignorance is now legitimized and even celebrated.

    And that cunt who shot Gabby Giffords and killed the others, was not a lefty, David. He was anti-big government, and according to his Facebook page, he was a member of the Tea Party, a cafeteria Constitutionalist who, like the rest of the cuntish Tea Party, pick and choose what parts of the constitution best fit their bigotry and selfishness.

  17. JK says:

    No apologies David. Sister Wolf’s treatment of this story is fair and balanced – I read no “usual Liberal bias” here – simply an observation of a tragedy. It is true, at least ostensibly, the lunatic has been described by people with whom he was “acquainted” describe him as ‘Leftist’ but I would note – this nut didn’t use verbiage in his murderous rampage – he used a 9mm Glock.

    I don’t know what comprises the “Top Ten on the Wish List” in the UK – but (at least here in the South) the weapons one sees at Tea Parties is “about” 75% Glocks. Do not misunderstand me, I’m not actually of the mind this guy was anything other than a certiafiable whack-job.

    For instance my search of public records fails to turn up any participation in any election by this individual in Arizona.

  18. David Duff says:

    Taylor: Gov. Brewer took over as Governor in Jan 2009 and at the end of the year the murder total was 324. This compared to the year before when it was 392, and the year before that when it was 463. I don’t think she can be blamed for a huge increase in violence, do you?

    JK, no it was not fair – and no reason why it should be! ‘Sis’ made, in the circumstances, a pefectly reasonable comment concerning Rep. Giffords but then followed it up with a completely unfair back-swipe at Sarah Palin **who is absolutely and completely free from any blame or even any connection** with this massacre. By her standards the back-swipe was hardly vitriolic but it was below the belt and entirely in keeping with the general tenor of this site which we all love.

    EH and others who think that Sheriff ‘Dumbnuts of Where-Ever’ is anything other than a total chump should know that when pressed on TV to back up his claims, he couldn’t:

    “His whose press conference yesterday has been widely cited as proof that right-wing vitriol led to the killings was just interviewed by Meghan Kelly on FoxNews and for the first time was forced to commit as to whether he had any evidence that Loughner actually listened to or was influenced by such political rhetoric. Dupnik admitted “it’s just my opinion period” and that “I don’t have that information yet.””

    The anti-free speech il-Liberals are merely behaving like Pavlov’s dogs again as they do everytime there is a mass killing:

    “The meme that opponents of Obama are crazy and dangerous has been an explicit Democratic Party campaign strategy for over two years. Here is just a partial list of events in which the left-wing and Democratic Party media operation has immediately blamed right-wing rhetoric, only to be proven wrong when the facts finally came out: Bill Sparkman, Amy Bishop, The Fort Hood Shooter, The IRS Plane Crasher, The Cabbie Stabbing, and The Pentagon Shooter.”

    http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/01/two-sicknesses-on-display-in-arizona.html

    In the meantime, Sis, please continue to be as vitriolic as you like!

  19. David Duff says:

    Sorry, I forgot to provide the link to Arizona crime stats:

    http://www.azdps.gov/About/Reports/Crime_In_Arizona/

  20. JK says:

    Thanks, David, for getting the clause in I knew you could be depended to, “By her standards the back-swipe was hardly vitriolic.”

  21. Joy D. says:

    Oh my, this will continue for a couple more weeks and then die. It is sad but true.

  22. Aja says:

    You know David Duff, I don’t have anything against you but I do think you tend to talk out of your ass. It’s really easy for you to sit back from the UK where healthcare is free and you never have to worry about how you’re going to pay a hospital bill and judge everyone else for being terrified of the prospect of Sarah Palin. It’s easy to think her antics are cute and harmless when they don’t harm you or threaten your personal rights and being. It’s easy to say that she has a right to try and rile up lunatics when you don’t understand the terrible history that is America and the power of angry white men with guns. (Speaking as an African American who’s grandmother tells her horror stories of lynchings in Alabama). There was a gun rally of Tea Partiers outside of DC about six months ago in a park in Virginia and that day I (and probably many other African Americans) stayed as far away from that part of town as possible. These are scary times. Sarah Palin and her rabid followers scare me. And your ignorance to this makes me pity you, if nothing else.

  23. Cricket9 says:

    OMG, I was traveling and learned about the shooting yesterday at night. I’m so, so sorry about what’s going on in US right now. I agree with Aja – I live in Canada, but US with Sarah as president scares the shit out of me – too close for comfort. Anyone watched the movie “Idiocracy”?

  24. Marky says:

    Aja, you’re right.

  25. Sister Wolf says:

    Liz – All I did was post a fucking video. Can’t you people think of a SINGLE WORD BESIDES VITRIOL! Get a fucking thesaurus for godsake.

  26. Sister Wolf says:

    David – Listen. Don’t you use the word “meme” around me, mister.

    I know with an absolute certainly that you are fully aware of Mrs Palin’s deficiencies in the areas of intelligence and character. I KNOW it. You are too smart to listen to her gargled misuse of her own native language to not see how stupid she is.

    You know this, and it is bad faith to pretend you don’t. You may like her “values” even if she doesn’t live by them herself (ie. she doesn’t really know how to hunt, she can’t control her own kids, etc etc etc.)

    But the woman is a moron and what we call here “a piece of work.”

    She is no Maggy Thatcher. She is a fiction created by McCain’s handlers and by her own cunning instincts about what The American People (read angry uneducated bigots) want. Even if you hate Obama and everything he stands for, you know that Mrs. Palin is unfit to serve as vice president or president of the US. She is unfit to serve as president of the P.T.A. and I know you know it,

    Love, as always, SW

  27. Carole says:

    Liz is right! We should not use this tragedy for political purposes. Now, using the 9/11 tragedy, that’s another story!

  28. Aja says:

    Carole, who are you to decide what makes a tragic act of violence, political?

  29. Sister Wolf says:

    Aja – I feel stupid for not getting Carole’s point.

  30. Aja says:

    SW- Don’t worry, I don’t get it either.

  31. Carole says:

    It was sarcasm.

  32. Sister Wolf says:

    Carole – Okay good!! That’s what I thought initially…but then I doubted my self. Thanks for putting Liz in her place!

  33. Aja says:

    Oh phew!! Sorry about my initial snipiness, Carole. I didn’t was honestly confused.

  34. Dru says:

    She’s alive, I believe? I just read a report somewhere that said she gave her doctors a thumbs-up.

    That doesn’t really make this event any less sad, though- the innocent bystanders who were killed didn’t deserve any of it.

  35. Andra says:

    I still don’t understand why Americans don’t want all Americans to have decent and free (or at least affordable) health care.
    Why???
    Why would you riot and shoot people who want this, which seems like a pretty simple and democratic thing to me?

  36. Cricket9 says:

    Andra, that’s a very good question. I lived in several countries with public health care; in some cases it was good, in some rather crappy – but it was there, and if you were poor or unemployed, a hospital for your kid would not ruin you. I don’t get it either…I’m probably politically naive, but what’s so essentially wrong with it that it’s worth shooting people?

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